Chapter 369: Argument (400 votes plus updates)
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St. Petersburg, the Winter Palace, in the meeting room, members of the Supreme Committee of the Burundi Party sat at the meeting table. Everyone held a copy of Trotsky's telegram from Brest in their hands. The content of the telegram is the tough attitude of the German side and the conditions put forward by the German side. Of course, the harsh conditions put forward by the German side made these leaders of the Burundi Party stupid.
"The Germans are clearly talking to the lions. We absolutely cannot accept such conditions. Otherwise, Russia will be completely reduced to a second-rate small country." Kamenev blushed and looked angry.
If the Burundi Party accepts the conditions of Germany, they will not only lose millions of square kilometers of territory, but also lose 40% of the country's population and more than half of the industry. Coupled with the loss of resources, this will make Russia completely lose the capital to become a big country! The leaders of these cloth parties do not want the country they will command in the future to become like this.
Ulyanov was also pale. He was equally intimidated by the German appetite. Originally, he thought that even if Germany wanted to kill Russia, it should not be too harsh. After all, Budang is not a fool, how could he agree to such harsh conditions? But now, Ulyanov had to admit that he underestimated the appetite of the Germans too much. This clearly meant to eat up a small part of Russia in one bite! And it is still the most essential half.
Ulyanov obviously could not accept such a condition. However, he was a little worried. Once the conditions of the Germans are rejected, what serious consequences will there be. If the German army launched an attack on Russia, would they be able to resist it? Will their revolution fail because of this. At that time, I am afraid that they will not only lose their lives, but also have no possibility of success in their ideals.
This made Ulyanov couldn't help worrying about gains and losses.
People may be like this, before they succeed, they can still fight forward. However, after success, he becomes hesitant and cares about gains and losses. Even a leader like Ulyanov will inevitably have problems in this regard.
Joseph was a little thankful that this hard work did not fall on his head. Otherwise, he should be the one who is struggling now. Joseph was very satisfied to be able to dig a hole for Trotsky, a powerful opponent.
Although, these members of the Supreme Council are now filled with righteous indignation, scolding Germany for being despicable and shameless, and the lion opened his mouth. However, Joseph knew that under the threat of Germany, they had no choice but to compromise.
Sure enough, when everyone scolded Germany sternly, Ulyanov began to ask everyone for their opinions.
"Everyone, should we agree to the harsh conditions of the Germans? If we don't agree, what will happen? Let's analyze it carefully!" Ulyanov said.
"Leader, the conditions of the Germans are too harsh, we absolutely cannot agree!" Kamenev immediately expressed his strong opposition.
Immediately, several committee members agreed. They also believed that the conditions offered by Germany were too harsh and insincere. If they agreed to such a condition, it would inevitably make them sinners of Russia.
At this time, Joseph spoke: "Everyone, if we don't agree to the conditions of the Germans, what actions will the Germans take? Can we bear the consequences?"
Joseph's words, like a bomb, made everyone stop talking. Everyone knows that Joseph's words are very reasonable. After all, Germany is so powerful now, after rejecting Germany, it means that it will be prepared to bear the wrath of Germany. And whether it can withstand the anger of Germany, no one dares to guarantee it.
After all, the current cloth party is still too weak. The armed forces they control, although numerous. But in front of the powerful German army, it was just a mob. They are not unclear about the German army's record on the Eastern Front. At the time, Russia's most elite standing army was not an opponent of the German army. Not to mention, they are now.
"Everyone, especially now that we are still facing internal and external troubles, it is even more important to properly handle this matter. Otherwise, everyone has to think carefully about the consequences!" Joseph continued.
Sure enough, the expressions on many people's faces became very serious.
"Joseph, are you advocating that we should accept blackmail from the Germans? In that case, how is it different from betraying the country?" Kamenev retorted.
"Comrade Kamenev, I am not traitorous, I am thinking for the interests of the party. We have worked so hard to get to this point, it is not easy! How many of our comrades were killed by Tsar Nicholas II for the success of the revolution? Killing? If we offend Germany and cause the German army to attack us aggressively, resulting in the failure of our revolution, then we will never have another chance." Joseph looked like he was thinking about the party and the cause.
However, Joseph's words did resonate with many people. It is undoubtedly very difficult for the cloth party to come to this day. Before, Tsar Nicholas II had always suppressed and persecuted them, and I don't know how many people lost their lives because of this. Even Ulyanov was exiled to Siberia? Almost lost his life.
"Hmph! Joseph, you are scaremongering. The Germans are busy fighting with Britain and France, the two imperialist countries, and there is no extra force to deal with us." Kamenev is not so easily persuaded .
"It is true that the main force of the Germans will not be used on us. But even if they only send an army to attack us, we may not be able to resist it? What's more, the Austro-Hungarian Empire is also eyeing us. They launched Although the attack was defeated, no one can guarantee that they will make a comeback. If the German army attacks us, the Austro-Hungarian Empire will definitely join in. At that time, the consequences will be very serious. Besides, if Germany If they win in future wars, they will definitely attack us with all their strength. At that time, do we have the strength to fight against them? Therefore, I think it is better to conclude an agreement with Germany as soon as possible and withdraw from the war!" Joseph continued.
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St. Petersburg, the Winter Palace, in the meeting room, members of the Supreme Committee of the Burundi Party sat at the meeting table. Everyone held a copy of Trotsky's telegram from Brest in their hands. The content of the telegram is the tough attitude of the German side and the conditions put forward by the German side. Of course, the harsh conditions put forward by the German side made these leaders of the Burundi Party stupid.
"The Germans are clearly talking to the lions. We absolutely cannot accept such conditions. Otherwise, Russia will be completely reduced to a second-rate small country." Kamenev blushed and looked angry.
If the Burundi Party accepts the conditions of Germany, they will not only lose millions of square kilometers of territory, but also lose 40% of the country's population and more than half of the industry. Coupled with the loss of resources, this will make Russia completely lose the capital to become a big country! The leaders of these cloth parties do not want the country they will command in the future to become like this.
Ulyanov was also pale. He was equally intimidated by the German appetite. Originally, he thought that even if Germany wanted to kill Russia, it should not be too harsh. After all, Budang is not a fool, how could he agree to such harsh conditions? But now, Ulyanov had to admit that he underestimated the appetite of the Germans too much. This clearly meant to eat up a small part of Russia in one bite! And it is still the most essential half.
Ulyanov obviously could not accept such a condition. However, he was a little worried. Once the conditions of the Germans are rejected, what serious consequences will there be. If the German army launched an attack on Russia, would they be able to resist it? Will their revolution fail because of this. At that time, I am afraid that they will not only lose their lives, but also have no possibility of success in their ideals.
This made Ulyanov couldn't help worrying about gains and losses.
People may be like this, before they succeed, they can still fight forward. However, after success, he becomes hesitant and cares about gains and losses. Even a leader like Ulyanov will inevitably have problems in this regard.
Joseph was a little thankful that this hard work did not fall on his head. Otherwise, he should be the one who is struggling now. Joseph was very satisfied to be able to dig a hole for Trotsky, a powerful opponent.
Although, these members of the Supreme Council are now filled with righteous indignation, scolding Germany for being despicable and shameless, and the lion opened his mouth. However, Joseph knew that under the threat of Germany, they had no choice but to compromise.
Sure enough, when everyone scolded Germany sternly, Ulyanov began to ask everyone for their opinions.
"Everyone, should we agree to the harsh conditions of the Germans? If we don't agree, what will happen? Let's analyze it carefully!" Ulyanov said.
"Leader, the conditions of the Germans are too harsh, we absolutely cannot agree!" Kamenev immediately expressed his strong opposition.
Immediately, several committee members agreed. They also believed that the conditions offered by Germany were too harsh and insincere. If they agreed to such a condition, it would inevitably make them sinners of Russia.
At this time, Joseph spoke: "Everyone, if we don't agree to the conditions of the Germans, what actions will the Germans take? Can we bear the consequences?"
Joseph's words, like a bomb, made everyone stop talking. Everyone knows that Joseph's words are very reasonable. After all, Germany is so powerful now, after rejecting Germany, it means that it will be prepared to bear the wrath of Germany. And whether it can withstand the anger of Germany, no one dares to guarantee it.
After all, the current cloth party is still too weak. The armed forces they control, although numerous. But in front of the powerful German army, it was just a mob. They are not unclear about the German army's record on the Eastern Front. At the time, Russia's most elite standing army was not an opponent of the German army. Not to mention, they are now.
"Everyone, especially now that we are still facing internal and external troubles, it is even more important to properly handle this matter. Otherwise, everyone has to think carefully about the consequences!" Joseph continued.
Sure enough, the expressions on many people's faces became very serious.
"Joseph, are you advocating that we should accept blackmail from the Germans? In that case, how is it different from betraying the country?" Kamenev retorted.
"Comrade Kamenev, I am not traitorous, I am thinking for the interests of the party. We have worked so hard to get to this point, it is not easy! How many of our comrades were killed by Tsar Nicholas II for the success of the revolution? Killing? If we offend Germany and cause the German army to attack us aggressively, resulting in the failure of our revolution, then we will never have another chance." Joseph looked like he was thinking about the party and the cause.
However, Joseph's words did resonate with many people. It is undoubtedly very difficult for the cloth party to come to this day. Before, Tsar Nicholas II had always suppressed and persecuted them, and I don't know how many people lost their lives because of this. Even Ulyanov was exiled to Siberia? Almost lost his life.
"Hmph! Joseph, you are scaremongering. The Germans are busy fighting with Britain and France, the two imperialist countries, and there is no extra force to deal with us." Kamenev is not so easily persuaded .
"It is true that the main force of the Germans will not be used on us. But even if they only send an army to attack us, we may not be able to resist it? What's more, the Austro-Hungarian Empire is also eyeing us. They launched Although the attack was defeated, no one can guarantee that they will make a comeback. If the German army attacks us, the Austro-Hungarian Empire will definitely join in. At that time, the consequences will be very serious. Besides, if Germany If they win in future wars, they will definitely attack us with all their strength. At that time, do we have the strength to fight against them? Therefore, I think it is better to conclude an agreement with Germany as soon as possible and withdraw from the war!" Joseph continued.
St. Petersburg, the Winter Palace, in the meeting room, members of the Supreme Committee of the Burundi Party sat at the meeting table. Everyone held a copy of Trotsky's telegram from Brest in their hands. The content of the telegram is the tough attitude of the German side and the conditions put forward by the German side. Of course, the harsh conditions put forward by the German side made these leaders of the Burundi Party stupid. "The Germans are clearly talking to the lions. We absolutely cannot accept such conditions. Otherwise, Russia will be completely reduced to a second-rate small country." Kamenev blushed and looked angry.If the Burundi Party accepts the conditions of Germany, they will not only lose millions of square kilometers of territory, but also lose 40% of the country's population and more than half of the industry. Coupled with the loss of resources, this will make Russia completely lose the capital to become a big country! The leaders of these cloth parties do not want the country they will command in the future to become like this.Ulyanov was also pale. He was equally intimidated by the German appetite. Originally, he thought that even if Germany wanted to kill Russia, it should not be too harsh. After all, Budang is not a fool, how could he agree to such harsh conditions? But now, Ulyanov had to admit that he underestimated the appetite of the Germans too much. This clearly meant to eat up a small part of Russia in one bite! And it is still the most essential half. Ulyanov obviously could not accept such a condition. However, he was a little worried. Once the conditions of the Germans are rejected, what serious consequences will there be. If the German army launched an attack on Russia, would they be able to resist it? Will their revolution fail because of this. At that time, I am afraid that they will not only lose their lives, but also have no possibility of success in their ideals. This made Ulyanov couldn't help worrying about gains and losses.People may be like this, before they succeed, they can still fight forward. However, after success, he becomes hesitant and cares about gains and losses. Even a leader like Ulyanov will inevitably have problems in this regard.Joseph was a little thankful that this hard work did not fall on his head. Otherwise, he should be the one who is struggling now. Joseph was very satisfied to be able to dig a hole for Trotsky, a powerful opponent.Although, these members of the Supreme Council are now filled with righteous indignation, scolding Germany for being despicable and shameless, and the lion opened his mouth. However, Joseph knew that under the threat of Germany, they had no choice but to compromise. Sure enough, when everyone scolded Germany sternly, Ulyanov began to ask everyone for their opinions. "Everyone, should we agree to the harsh conditions of the Germans? If we don't agree, what will happen? Let's analyze it carefully!" Ulyanov said. "Leader, the conditions of the Germans are too harsh, we absolutely cannot agree!" Kamenev immediately expressed his strong opposition. Immediately, several committee members agreed. They also believed that the conditions offered by Germany were too harsh and insincere. If they agreed to such a condition, it would inevitably make them sinners of Russia. At this time, Joseph spoke: "Everyone, if we don't agree to the conditions of the Germans, what actions will the Germans take? Can we bear the consequences?"Joseph's words, like a bomb, made everyone stop talking. Everyone knows that Joseph's words are very reasonable. After all, Germany is so powerful now, after rejecting Germany, it means that it will be prepared to bear the wrath of Germany. And whether it can withstand the anger of Germany, no one dares to guarantee it. After all, the current cloth party is still too weak. The armed forces they control, although numerous. But in front of the powerful German army, it was just a mob. They are not unclear about the German army's record on the Eastern Front. At the time, Russia's most elite standing army was not an opponent of the German army. Not to mention, they are now. "Everyone, especially now that we are still facing internal and external troubles, it is even more important to properly handle this matter. Otherwise, everyone has to think carefully about the consequences!" Joseph continued. Sure enough, the expressions on many people's faces became very serious. "Joseph, are you advocating that we should accept blackmail from the Germans? In that case, how is it different from betraying the country?" Kamenev retorted."Comrade Kamenev, I am not traitorous, I am thinking for the interests of the party. We have worked so hard to get to this point, it is not easy! How many of our comrades were killed by Tsar Nicholas II for the success of the revolution? Killing? If we offend Germany and cause the German army to attack us aggressively, resulting in the failure of our revolution, then we will never have another chance." Joseph looked like he was thinking about the party and the cause.However, Joseph's words did resonate with many people. It is undoubtedly very difficult for the cloth party to come to this day. Before, Tsar Nicholas II had always suppressed and persecuted them, and I don't know how many people lost their lives because of this. Even Ulyanov was exiled to Siberia? Almost lost his life."Hmph! Joseph, you are scaremongering. The Germans are busy fighting with Britain and France, the two imperialist countries, and there is no extra force to deal with us." Kamenev is not so easily persuaded ."It is true that the main force of the Germans will not be used on us. But even if they only send an army to attack us, we may not be able to resist it? What's more, the Austro-Hungarian Empire is also eyeing us. They launched Although the attack was defeated, no one can guarantee that they will make a comeback. If the German army attacks us, the Austro-Hungarian Empire will definitely join in. At that time, the consequences will be very serious. Besides, if Germany If they win in future wars, they will definitely attack us with all their strength. At that time, do we have the strength to fight against them? Therefore, I think it is better to conclude an agreement with Germany as soon as possible and withdraw from the war!" Joseph continued.
